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September 3, 2020 at 11:08 pm in reply to: Most Common Erectile Dysfunction Treatments and Drugs #179360
I think everyone that’s been stuck with Arches could use some pills to encourage boners again and get the blood pumping. I’ll take some.
So it’s mentioned further back in this, but if anyone ever bothers to look at this thread or address the firmware for this lemon, here’s Arturia implementing a touchstrip properly where it latches and remembers the postion but also has 0 as an available state without having to enable/disable the latch button.
Please make the bottom of the strips 0v.
Seeing as it’s been almost a full year since you last posted here, is it safe to assume that the Arches experiment is abandoned?
If not, please can you update us on what you are still planning to do to ‘support this ‘product’?
It was so close to being the last eurorack control surface that I ever wanted but it’s so full of inconsistent faults, shonky build quality and awkward working practices that I’d like to know whether it’s worth waiting any longer or just accepting that it was a the waste of money that it feels like and attempt to sell it on (although why anyone would buy it/how I could responsibly sell it, I do not really know).
And several more months now. I wonder whatever happened to the web editor?
Isn’t it nice when you put in the hard work beta testing a piece of kit you paid handsomely for and all your feedback and requests seem to be ignored?
I’ve just picked up an er301 which arches would be great to interact with if I was even remotely inclined to get it out of the box under my desk that it’s been sitting in for months now. This experience is the one I’ll reference the next time optimistic me sees something cool looking on kickstarter he wants to get behind.
- This reply was modified 7 months, 1 week ago by dfyans.
Yeah, mine has been put back in its box a few months ago now and sits under my desk in the hopes that one day it ends up being something a bit more rugged and useful and reminding me that kickstarters have only ever disappointed me.
I’ve unassigned everything, when I scan through the elements using the knob, everything is either — as it should be or set to the output that I’ve assigned. Output 3 is just not an option and it is absolutely not because it’s assigned to something else as I’ve also gone through the thumb pads and unassigned everything related to those (apart from their dedicated outputs).
If I can find the time/energy/willpower to spend another chunk of time fighting with the unfriendly assign procedure I’ll try to set it up again using one of the existing presets as a starting point but man, as far as I’m concerned, this thing is still an awkward, buggy mess and it feels like it’s getting worse as we get more complications as features that I don’t really care that much about get added and break more things. Again, if there was a clear everything/blank state it’d make life easier.
With respect, I don’t want a preset that is *near* to what I want to use, I want the configureable, flexible controller where I can assign whatever I want to whatever output I want that I thought I was buying into.
Here’s an example of the awkward UI that I’ve mentioned earlier that I came across while *working* on this-
I decided once I’d changed all the elements to free that I wanted to change all their range to 10v instead of 5v, for each element, I had to press the select knob and move it to the element and then press the aux button 3 times for EACH change I wanted to make, then press the OK knob, then start again for the next thing I want to change. If the voltage select (or note value, or trig type, etc) stayed ‘in focus’ while moving around to assign this is would make a user friendly workflow and save wear on the hardware.
Forgot to add to the above that I’ve gone through every assignable element and there’s nothing else attributed to output 3, none of the KBs are enabled and the sequencers are all set to false.
I’ve always had this cognitive issue with the LS1 too but. is there any chance that the bottom of the capacitive strips can be considered as 0v in addition to no touch?
When trying to use Arches to control a mixer for example, the only way to zero out the channel is to deselect the hold button which makes thing all the more tricky.
Currently when I scan to the bottom, I measure between 0.1 and 0.2 volts which is definitely significant enough to make a big difference when controlling eurorack modules. I’d even be happy to see it with the option of changing the scaling from linear to something more exponential (selectable of course) but at present (if I can even configure arches the way I want which is a rare thing), it doesn’t really work for me.
I’m still trying and still finding this hard to love.
Tonight I’ve been trying to set up all the strips as free elements for controlling mixers/Levels on various modules.
I unassigned the KBs, set everything to free and then started mapping them left hand set 1-6, right hand set 9 -14 so far so good only for no reason the hold button on the 3rd strip along on the right hand set wouldn’t engage despite being set the same as all the others.
I saved this as a new preset, power cycled and loaded the preset and the hold button worked BUT, the strip that was set to output it’s voltage on output 3 didn’t do anything. going into the assign menu gave me the option of setting it to output 2 (which was already in use by the strip next to it) or the next free output (17 or something).
It’s really such a mediocre experience using this thing, I’m so close to putting it back in it’s box and just trying to sell it but part of me wants to hold out to see if it ever becomes useable as the thing we thought we had kickstarted in the first place.
Freely assignable elements
I find the ‘preset’ ideas of keyboards supplied by you really restrictive (and I also don’t actually know how to access them unless it’s just by the factory patches). these should just be groups of elements and not necessarily fixed by their location. By all means have a limit of 3 or 5 use configs or whatever fits but if I’m playing along on a KB using the left hand elements and feel like I want to add an additional couple of notes using the right hand elements (or the top row) it currently seems impossible to just reconfigure them – eg. I can assign them to KB2 or KB6 but I want to add them to KB1 and that’s not an option. If I wanted to assign 2 on the left elements, a couple of buttons at the top and 3 on the right elements that should just be a case of setting the KB settings to the same KB# and be done with it.
Take the training wheels off and throw them away. This isn’t a traditional keyboard layout anyway so it shouldn’t need to be restricted like one.
Each KB should also have it’s own menu where the outputs can be configured, it feels like madness to have such a flexible surface and all that space taken up by the jackfield where you can’t just assign what you want to where you want it. From a purely mental point of view, if I’m using 6 elements as free controllers for a mixed (which you can’t really as it’s so steppy with VCAs) I really want to use jacks 1-6 and not have to hunt around for whatever free ones that usually aren’t next to each other that I am permitted to use. If that uncouples jack 2 from a KB, I’m not fussed, if I want to use that KB, I’ll just assign it to another more logical to my workflow set of outputs.
The assign sequence
basically a huge start would be that if I’ve pressed the assign note button or the KB button (although that’s a moot point as per above) that I should see in the display that value of all the elements I select with the left hand knob so that you can easily see and change the scale without lots of in and out and in and out of menus. Every single time I need to do so much stuff that I usually forget what KB number I wanted to be assigning to the element I was aiming for or what the other notes are already set to and this would let you just scroll along – check it’s a the notes of an A minor scale you wanted, check it’s all on the correct KB# and we’re off and playing.
Please consider these as bug reports then if that’s where we need to put stuff. It must smart a bit to see Arturia who have traditionally been notoriously bad responding more quickly and effectively to bug fixes and user feedback than here.
I’m reaching a stage where I’m really not motivated to use arches because I can’t face the hassle of trying to configure it.
“April 27, 2019 at 5:27 pm #12239
I’ve been unable to use my gear for a few weeks and today sat down again with Arches to try to setup some useful overlays and I’m finding the whole thing very much like grinding teeth. I’d like to hear how everyone else is getting on with it but I find myself getting lost/stuck/disenchanted trying to just make what feels like it should be really simple overlays.
I figured it’d be handy to make every available element apart from the XYZ pads into one single keyboard and after about a million button presses (and half of those were going back into the menu I needed because I’d somehow come out of the thing I was trying to dial in), I just couldn’t seem to make any progress and managed to unnasign some of the keys from the KB they part of but wasn’t then allowed to assign them to the KB i wanted to.
I’d love to see the way that elements are locked up addressed (ie. let us assign anything to any group whether it’s currently assigned to another KB or not please) and more importantly, the way that elements are assigned totally overhauled. It’s so counterintuitive to have to come out of the assign page, move the cursor, go into another page, come out again when trying to edit KB notes or groups of things.
I want to love this instrument, the interface is really, really making it hard for me to get to a stage that I can actually use it for what I’d like to.
Anyone else got any thoughts?
April 27, 2019 at 5:38 pm #12243
Also: Can we be able to name our patches please? I for the life in me have no idea if Patch005 is a a keyboard in G or individual strips for controlling a mixer, or is that Patch009 or Patch094?”
It feels very much like just shouting into an empty well here.
Compared to the Mutable Instruments forum where Emilie rarely lets even the most banal rtfm questions posted sit for more than a few hours without some for of acknowledgment, this place is just a big, dark, echoey hole.
Also: Can we be able to name our patches please? I for the life in me have no idea if Patch005 is a a keyboard in G or individual strips for controlling a mixer, or is that Patch009 or Patch094?